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Post by arap00 on Aug 29, 2008 15:27:32 GMT -5
your lists sucks.
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Post by waffles on Aug 29, 2008 17:02:44 GMT -5
well ara the thing is, its an active list. ppl who do the same thing and are good at it like usa(uk), zerb(russia) and slotter(france) arnt there because they do just that, the same thing. ww1 isnt the same way it was when ww1 1.0 was around things have changed. its who can be random with their strats. Now things are structured, ppl respond to strats different ways becuase all strats and counter strats have been proven in and out of game. I'm not saying zerb, usa and slotter are bad im saying they need to switch their strats up for those countries. when not playing the countries iv have pointed to in brackets they have unbelievable skill. usa dont go bos even tho it is lighty guarded. slotter stop tax whoring every time u get the chance. zerb stop going serbia even tho it does work on most aus. plus i gave it to u that game, i had u stopped and could have recked u leaving u open to otto walk but stop repairing and pull to my racks. all im saying is show some randomness and have fun
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Post by ZeRb on Aug 30, 2008 19:18:07 GMT -5
randomness is as soon as people stop being noob austrias, fuhrer stopped me once recently though.
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Post by arap00 on Aug 30, 2008 21:37:29 GMT -5
well ara the thing is, its an active list. ppl who do the same thing and are good at it like usa(uk), zerb(russia) and slotter(france) arnt there because they do just that, the same thing. ww1 isnt the same way it was when ww1 1.0 was around things have changed. its who can be random with their strats. Now things are structured, ppl respond to strats different ways becuase all strats and counter strats have been proven in and out of game. I'm not saying zerb, usa and slotter are bad im saying they need to switch their strats up for those countries. when not playing the countries iv have pointed to in brackets they have unbelievable skill. usa dont go bos even tho it is lighty guarded. slotter stop tax whoring every time u get the chance. zerb stop going serbia even tho it does work on most aus. plus i gave it to u that game, i had u stopped and could have recked u leaving u open to otto walk but stop repairing and pull to my racks. all im saying is show some randomness and have fun I was talking about me And yesterday i was talking with kain about all strats that didnt exist before WW or -vip time. We should make a list of these players who changed the way to play ww1, who created the best and the most new tactics. That way i could make a funny ranking.
1- Slotter for the new western germ line. Very effective, much more than the old ''fuh west'' the one that every1 used for like 2 years 2- I would go with Ieatyself who firstly repaired his luft. Any1 else wasnt caring at all 3- Tiny : He created the basic uk : 8-10 drops dropped as fast as possible in germ at 2:00 or even 2:30 (belgium or neitherland) 4- Korea & Unit for the funny strats they were using back in old time. 5- Alpha_8 for the massing barrack as germ and building first seawall as a routine. (every1 for random reason was building racks inside or others werent actually building a single barrack)
DooM for the triple east tank strat (funny thing). I have created that bunker we now use to build on the eastern germany. The guy who strated spying with ships (no idea who he is) The guy who first spied med with 2 factories (twas before the ships spying) Me and Kapputtz for the tax sleeper + slot who actualized some of em(I'm thinking bout nor taxing) Artha for the great offensive Russia he had
If any1 else have better ideas, I can't remember all
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Post by 8BaLL on Aug 31, 2008 21:17:51 GMT -5
Ok people who changed the way the game is played, in my opinion:
Unit - For the France bunk setup, nothing works better against a rush. Milk/eat - For showing that you dont need bunks to be a top player. Korea - For the solution to the russia rush. Unknown - The person who discovered saving bos by building outside. Arth - For his cow defenses, making people realize the importance of knowing the dimensions of the zones. Kain - For the two stacked V racks. Soul - For creating the basic rus.
Honorable Mentions:
Capone: "omg his rus and france" Rommel: For creating the 3rd best france on bnet.
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Post by 8BaLL on Aug 31, 2008 21:18:54 GMT -5
That was excluding those already mentioned in Ara's list.
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Post by 8BaLL on Aug 31, 2008 21:26:15 GMT -5
Actually when I think about it, its hard to include slots bunks or kains racks because not everyone uses them, so its hard to say they changed the game.
I would say Slots bunks were more important because they made people realize they could bunk differently than Fuh's style, rather than for the setup itsself.
Of course im not sure who did that sooner, Slot with his 1 and 3 setup or korea with his 2 and 2 setup.
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Post by Arap00 on Sept 1, 2008 10:19:21 GMT -5
Kain - For the two stacked V racks. I pretty much created that V def now that I remember. I was even lifting those 3 bottom racks to Vienna. Before me, ppl were building south austria but it was like 3 years ago.
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Post by arap00 on Sept 1, 2008 10:21:15 GMT -5
Actually when I think about it, its hard to include slots bunks or kains racks because not everyone uses them, so its hard to say they changed the game. I would say Slots bunks were more important because they made people realize they could bunk differently than Fuh's style, rather than for the setup itsself. Of course im not sure who did that sooner, Slot with his 1 and 3 setup or korea with his 2 and 2 setup. true, korea
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Post by USA[HoT] on Sept 1, 2008 23:55:20 GMT -5
ok im not saying im that great or anything, and waffen is totally right we do need to mix up our strats alot theirs no doubt we do the same thing too much... although as stated by waffen these strats we use do have great affectiveness, but there are some things u guys are either leaving out or werent around for i know ara was but Waff and some of the otheres werent...
I noticed how u put up the things and people that changed ww1 over the years and u added stuff like {whoever the guy was that thought of building outside bos to save it} yeh totally that guy deserves to be recognized i dont disagree.
I can remember back in rA (fuhs old rA) that Uks and frances didnt seem to go vienna and otto very much.
i guess thats why people started liking my uk cause to be honest it was god awfully slow in those days but i did usually cream vienna because no one ever gaurded it. LOL how times have changed... and plus back in rA days a BOS drop wasnt totally unheard of i dont guess but to be honest i dont remember people doing it very often on the first turn untill i started it...
so if i where gonna make a list of people and things that changed ww1 id surely put {the guy that came up with building outside Bos} on my list, but id also add the guys who came up with dropping it in the first place...
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Post by Arap00 on Sept 3, 2008 9:32:28 GMT -5
ok im not saying im that great or anything, and waffen is totally right we do need to mix up our strats alot theirs no doubt we do the same thing too much... although as stated by waffen these strats we use do have great affectiveness, but there are some things u guys are either leaving out or werent around for i know ara was but Waff and some of the otheres werent... I noticed how u put up the things and people that changed ww1 over the years and u added stuff like {whoever the guy was that thought of building outside bos to save it} yeh totally that guy deserves to be recognized i dont disagree. I can remember back in rA (fuhs old rA) that Uks and frances didnt seem to go vienna and otto very much. i guess thats why people started liking my uk cause to be honest it was god awfully slow in those days but i did usually cream vienna because no one ever gaurded it. LOL how times have changed... and plus back in rA days a BOS drop wasnt totally unheard of i dont guess but to be honest i dont remember people doing it very often on the first turn untill i started it... so if i where gonna make a list of people and things that changed ww1 id surely put {the guy that came up with building outside Bos} on my list, but id also add the guys who came up with dropping it in the first place... Problem with that bos drop is that as soon we know your going to do it every single or 75% game (except for fuhrer or the noobs hot you just recruited) the strat will become totally unusefull unlike the western germ wall, the V stack, the ship spying, etc. But thats true V and bos drops were pretty innovative for a times, especially when no1 was scouting. Nowaday uk drop done most of time is the one near budapest threw russia, a drop that i used to do
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Post by vandal on Sept 4, 2008 5:14:36 GMT -5
lol ill be the first to say i have no place on any top 5 overall list. if were talkin russia or massive marine battles then maybe... ;D
among active players i think most of ur lists are bullsh*t and are clouded by ur friendships, but i cant even name a top 5 without 10-15 names coming to mind.
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